tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post5279309444982505716..comments2024-03-11T04:54:26.827-07:00Comments on THE HOCKEY SCHTICK: New paper finds distinct seasonal pattern of lapse rates, as predicted by Maxwell/Carnot/Clausius greenhouse theoryUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-3790264220664157862015-03-01T12:34:34.581-08:002015-03-01T12:34:34.581-08:00At any given moment the lapse rate above every pos...At any given moment the lapse rate above every position around the globe is in a state of constant variation due to local conditions which include latitude, time of day, season, winds, humidity, aerosol content and the radiative capability of the local atmosphere.<br /><br />However, for the atmosphere around a planet to be retained all such variations from surface to space must net out to the average lapse rate determined by mass (or rather the heat capacity of that mass) and gravity.<br /><br />Gravity is relevant in setting atmospheric density at the surface which determines what proportion of solar energy passing through can be diverted via conduction and convection to the mass of the atmospjhere.<br /><br />Gravity also sets the amount of energy required to raise the mass of the atmosphere off the surface and keep it suspended.<br /><br />The level of insolation then determines how high the mass of the atmospheric gases can rise against gravity.<br /><br />Convection, both up and down, balances radiation from surface and atmosphere to space on the one hand with conduction between surface and atmosphere on the other hand so as to keep the system stable and thereby prevent the atmosphere from either falling to the ground or being lost to space.<br /><br />Any thermal effect of the radiative capability of the atmosphere is negated by changes in convection.<br /><br />Changes in convection do amount to a climate change but the surface temperature does not rise otherwise the balance between radiation to space and conduction from surface to atmosphere would be upset so as to permanently destabilise the system such that the atmosphere would be lost or rather would never have developed in the first place.<br /><br />The convective changes that result from variation in radiative activity within the atmosphere are magnitudes less than we see as a result of ocean cycles and solar variability and could never be separated out from those other causes.<br /><br />AGW theory proposes a warmer lower part of the atmosphere with a colder upper part of the atmosphere with the net amount of radiation to space remaining stable at the same quantity as radiation coming in from space.<br /><br />If one has a colder stratosphere then the tropopause rises, convection rises higher and a greater proportion of the energy held by the atmosphere (holding it up against gravity) becomes potential energy which is not heat and does not radiate. The surface temperature would then not rise.<br /><br />Only by increasing the mass or heat capacity of that mass can one raise surface temperature at a given level of insolation and strength of gravitational field.<br /><br />See here:<br /><br />http://www.newclimatemodel.com/greenhouse-confusion-resolved/<br /><br />Published by Stephen Wilde July 16, 2008 <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Stephen Wildehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07357171106480483956noreply@blogger.com