tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post130399055395422128..comments2024-03-11T04:54:26.827-07:00Comments on THE HOCKEY SCHTICK: Climate “Consensus” Con Game: Desperate Effort Before Release of UN ReportUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-43474595958925129892013-05-23T03:10:53.563-07:002013-05-23T03:10:53.563-07:00Of course there is no consensus. But people like ...Of course there is no consensus. But people like Dr Roy Spencer have influence, and that's a sad thing, because Spencer displays such a lack of knowledge of atmospheric physics.<br /><br />It is interesting to note that Dr Spencer plans doing an experiment with four metal plates, and he asked for predictions. Here's my comment which was not accepted on his blog, because he has decided, like Anthony Watts, Judith Curry, John Cook, Jeff Conlon and some others to block my explanations of what is really happening. These explanations and published articles thereon are the result of thousands of hours of research into climatology, and then an application of valid physics to the atmospheres, surfaces and sub-surface regions of not only Earth, but other planets from which much can be learnt.<br /><br />Here, for the public record, is the rejected comment ...<br /><br />Radation from a cooler source can and will slow the radiative cooling of a warmer body. Roy's experiment is merely showing what physicists and engineers have known for over a century.<br /><br />However, such radiation can never have any effect on the rate of cooling by other processes, conduction, evaporative cooling etc.<br /><br />In Roy's experiment there will be conduction into the air molecules that collide with the large surfaces of the plates. This may mostly compensate, but there will probably be a slight net difference in rates of cooling.<br /><br />It proves nothing, however, in regard to climate, partly because the plates are so much hotter than the Earth's surface that the percentage of radiative cooling versus non-radiative cooling will be significantly greater. But there are more significant reasons as to why mean surface temperatures are not determined by radiation at all. Temperatures on Uranus easily demonstrate this point.<br /><br />See this comment and the next one of mine on that thread.<br /><br />http://joannenova.com.au/2013/05/major-30-reduction-in-modelers-estimates-of-climate-sensitivity-skeptics-were-right/#comment-1276639<br /><br />Doug Cotton<br />Sydney<br />Doug Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08564342660783793003noreply@blogger.com