tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post4160761883058758518..comments2024-03-11T04:54:26.827-07:00Comments on THE HOCKEY SCHTICK: Game Over! IPCC Quietly Concedes DefeatUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-49880578867108972152014-01-14T09:38:07.615-08:002014-01-14T09:38:07.615-08:00One of the key arguments about AGW has been a tipp...One of the key arguments about AGW has been a tipping point in temperature. Despite years of additional CO2 buildup that hasn't happened. I looked at it from the view point, and after much argument, still come back to solar cycles. Research is woefully lacking in a number of other areas. According to me, we are on the edge of a major cool down which will affect everybody. If it has been the objective of the IPCC to leave the world with no options in a colder world and billions of us die, then they have won. They 've won by time consuming debate about a made up crisis. With any body that thought differently was "mentally deficient", "on the payroll of some organization", and "plain out lying". The lengths AGW have gone to discredit is extraordinary. Whatever the arguments, the entire debate in my opinion has come down to one word, "retained". Without any science other than CO2 is a greenhouse gas, the heat that is released in upper atmosphere is "retained". That's their statement. I say it's "released" and although there is probably is and always has been some retention, certainly not overwhelming or enough to cause a tipping point. So what is the refraction index of the upper atmosphere? And if there is an increase to cause the IR to be refracted back is it doping from a rare earth compound? Like the composition of a passing comet or meteorites. I have a ton of questions. <br /><br />Another point I'd like to make is the math they use to come up with the global rise in temperature. I can use the same sort of math to come up with a +0.5 C in temperature with the decline of the magnetic field of the earth. ( around 10% decrease. And as AGW has pointed out, repeatedly, a small amount can have a huge impact. So what does a 0.05 decrease in Gauss have over the entire surface of the upper atmosphere? On frequencies other than in the nanometer range. Like those in the microwave range which are directly affected by magnetic fields. Which by the way, there is one frequency that directly heats water, can't cook in your microwave with out water) Especially over time. The decline started about the same time as the industrial revolution. So with a big enough stick can I beat everybody's head into believing that it's really what I say it is? <br /><br />The very dangerous thing that I believe that the IPCC has done is to take honest scientific debate of the table. When there is a real crisis and it is verifiable, no one will either believe it or act on it. <br /><br />It has nothing to do with whether I believe in the laws of gravity or evolution. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-26650983517816092312014-01-12T08:00:11.932-08:002014-01-12T08:00:11.932-08:00Ah yes. You know the person posting has ZERO behin...Ah yes. You know the person posting has ZERO behind their argument, when they have to resort to making fun of a disfigurement caused by a life-threatening illness. That's been most of my experience with True Believers.Otternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-10212855684109887962014-01-11T11:59:02.135-08:002014-01-11T11:59:02.135-08:00highly recommended, related:
http://wattsupwithth...highly recommended, related:<br /><br />http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/09/the-ipcc-discards-its-models/MShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06714540297202434542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-25259534739394006242014-01-06T08:29:54.424-08:002014-01-06T08:29:54.424-08:0097% of climate models and climate scientists predi...97% of climate models and climate scientists predicted significant global warming over the last 15 years....and were wrong. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-90942720630279308232014-01-05T22:12:48.556-08:002014-01-05T22:12:48.556-08:00None of Mann's claims are verifiable.None of Mann's claims are verifiable.PHz13https://www.blogger.com/profile/13285502653368942384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-81907861968114218882014-01-05T17:45:17.644-08:002014-01-05T17:45:17.644-08:00Ad homs against Monckton do not invalidate any of ...Ad homs against Monckton do not invalidate any of the claims he makes which are the subject of this post. Do you have anything to say about the topic of this post instead of ad homs? What specific & scientific claims do you have regarding this post? Apparently none.<br /><br />I picked one of your videos and found it to be pathetic:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpF48b6Lsbo<br /><br />‘between co2 concentration and temperature going back 600,000 years in the past [he means 600 million years] and here we have 7000PPM…[it is very easy to see where he went wrong].<br /><br />A simple gaffe during an off the cuff speech is something anyone could make, yet warmists like yourself don't mind when Michael Mann has continued to use upside-down data for the past decade and refuses to admit his published egregious error for more than a decade after it was pointed out to him. AGW is a religion and egregious mistakes of the priests don't matter, only ad homs against non-believers matter.<br /><br />In the same video you also make the pathetic mistake of equating the 'greenhouse' effect to the limitation of convection. That's when I stopped watching and will not waste any more time debunking your videos.MShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06714540297202434542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-6590382668089738562014-01-05T17:19:42.606-08:002014-01-05T17:19:42.606-08:00We listen to him because he makes points which are...We listen to him because he makes points which are verifiable, not because he claims any authority. In fact he is the first to argue AGAINST authoity arguments. Your ad homs might be great fun for you but even if they were true they are irrelevant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-28464423962764807032014-01-05T15:12:02.611-08:002014-01-05T15:12:02.611-08:00A new paper from SPPI and Christopher Monckton
Bu...A new paper from SPPI and Christopher Monckton<br /><br />But<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbW-aHvjOgM<br /><br />‘is it his science background as science advisor to Margaret Thatcher…[er, NO!] is it the fact that he wrote several peer reviewed scientific papers…[er, NO!]…if he was Margaret Thatcher’s science advisor…lets check her autobiography to see what she thought of his advice…no her science advisor was George Guise…no Margaret Thatcher said George Guise advised her on climate change…which she set up the CRU [at East Anglia University]…etc.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTY3FnsFZ7Q<br /><br />‘Why do people believe him? And here we get an insight…and he is right, McNeil is not an expert on climate sensitivity, but an expert on co2 absorption in oceans…so when Monckton turns to and area outside McNeil’s expertise, Monckton can make any claim he likes. Lets face he sounds bold, confident…McNeil can’t check Monckton’s claims are correct, but we can…‘<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpF48b6Lsbo<br /><br />‘between co2 concentration and temperature going back 600,000 years in the past [he means 600 million years] and here we have 7000PPM…[it is very easy to see where he went wrong].<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3giRaGNTMA<br /><br />‘It’s a favourite tactic of anybody who wants to undermine scientists, compile a list of quotes usually from scientists and usually taken out of context, Monckton does this of course, but goes a step further and changes it!<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRCyctTvuCo<br /><br />‘What more bunkum from Christopher Monckton…[the Sun has been remarkable active]…if it’s the Sun, why do climate scientists say it isn’t?…as usual climate scientist know something Monckton doesn’t…the planets are not all warming and solar scientist do not measure the output of the Sun by measuring the moons of Neptune, we can measure solar output more directly from Earth’<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com