tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post6393629468164291589..comments2024-03-11T04:54:26.827-07:00Comments on THE HOCKEY SCHTICK: The large increase in Antarctic sea ice since 2002 is realUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-24226575477906354322014-07-24T16:42:50.180-07:002014-07-24T16:42:50.180-07:00I'm 97.1% certain that they don't know if ...I'm 97.1% certain that they don't know if there IS a problem. Don1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07442491067458637749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-51338827401127127452014-07-24T01:16:03.339-07:002014-07-24T01:16:03.339-07:00If this was a medical paper with such a data aberr...If this was a medical paper with such a data aberration, it would be regarded as interesting, anecdotal almost but the conclusions would not be considered as evidential until clarified and verified. After all lives are at stake.<br />A little bit like "climate science" judgements - where the quality of billions of lives in the near and distant future are at stake.Dave Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-37929673541437535912014-07-23T19:14:53.460-07:002014-07-23T19:14:53.460-07:00http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2014/...http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2014/07/23/9280/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-84120783645445057082014-07-23T09:39:02.379-07:002014-07-23T09:39:02.379-07:00'The Pause' both is, and is not, real, dep...'The Pause' both is, and is not, real, depending on the situation, and the argument being made.Robert Sheafferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-4214472857199679012014-07-23T07:38:25.500-07:002014-07-23T07:38:25.500-07:00Skeptics are not "climate ignorists," fa...Skeptics are not "climate ignorists," far from it, skeptics point out the things alarmists have overlooked or ignored. MShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06714540297202434542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-51134114557689979312014-07-23T04:35:42.633-07:002014-07-23T04:35:42.633-07:00As one of the most despised of climate-thinkers, a...As one of the most despised of climate-thinkers, an Undecided, what I find most interesting about this article is that it seems the tide might have reached an inflection point; where Climate Alarmist are actually having to defend their assumptions against the work of Climate Ignorists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-2917507622511768442014-07-23T03:20:38.674-07:002014-07-23T03:20:38.674-07:00Surely there is satellite imagery of the peak ice ...Surely there is satellite imagery of the peak ice for 1979 (or 1980), and the current peak ice for 2013/14. Simple to measure the increase and compare it to the "models". How stupid can these guys be. Just look at the physical evidence, and measure it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-64324302808647666732014-07-23T00:24:59.549-07:002014-07-23T00:24:59.549-07:00This paper by Eisenman, Meier and Norris does not ...This paper by Eisenman, Meier and Norris does not mean what it seems to mean.<br /><br />What counts is the total amount of land and sea ice. It really does not matter whether the ice is on the land or on the sea. The source of the ice, including most of the sea ice, must be mainly precipitation over the coastal areas of Antarctica. (The interior is a desert). Calving of the glaciers is caused by the increased weight of ice.<br /><br />Antarctic glaciers, save for a geothermal region in the SW, do not melt or slide into the sea. The bases of Antarctic glaciers are locked to the bedrock. Thus the weight of the ice causes shear and glaciers move under gravitational forces like rock strata.. <br /><br />Increased precipitation in the coastal areas has increased the ice mass in the coastal areas. Warmists claim that this is evidence of global warming.<br /><br />However, if the extent of sea ice is less than estimated, this means that the precipitation must be less than estimated and hence the global warming must be less than estimated.<br /><br />In my opinion, neither the increase in land ice nor the increase in sea ice tells us anything about Antarctic temperature that is relevant to the claimed increase. hiatus, or decrease in global temperature. <br /><br />Since the volume of land and sea ice tells us only about precipitation, the relevant question is: what does an increase or decrease in Antarctic precipitation tell us about global climate? And what do we learn if it turns out that the increase in precipitation is not as great as we had estimated?<br /><br />As for those who have bad-mouthed Dr Eisenman and his colleagues, shame on you.<br /> Frank Waltershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17403044995764984391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-51927283461943360192014-07-22T18:53:00.386-07:002014-07-22T18:53:00.386-07:00" It's also curious that this "signi..." It's also curious that this "significant error" occurred 23 years ago, but was not found until Antarctic sea ice hit all-time record highs, and that they don't know whether the data since 12/91 is erroneous or not. "<br /><br />No it's not. It's what they do. Whenever we use science to weaken their claims, they come up with these (I believe) BS claims. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-11433812026621643742014-07-22T16:46:37.562-07:002014-07-22T16:46:37.562-07:00"A team of scientists say much of the increas..."A team of scientists say much of the increase measured for Southern Hemisphere sea ice could be due to a processing error in the satellite data"<br /><br />That's cool.<br /><br />Meanwhile, up at the other end:<br /><br />A team of scientists say much of the decrease measured for Northern Hemisphere sea ice could be due to a processing error in the satellite dataAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-7124031253626280142014-07-22T16:46:06.822-07:002014-07-22T16:46:06.822-07:00see also
http://www.cato.org/blog/molehill-antarc...see also<br /><br />http://www.cato.org/blog/molehill-antarctic-ice-becomes-mountainMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06714540297202434542noreply@blogger.com