tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.comments2024-03-11T04:54:26.827-07:00THE HOCKEY SCHTICKUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7881125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-36373105051337003452018-05-16T04:18:19.101-07:002018-05-16T04:18:19.101-07:00The tidal gauge at the end of Manhattan Island has...The tidal gauge at the end of Manhattan Island has an important message: <br /><br />The sea level was rising as fast before the Civil War as it is presently. That is, sea level rise is natural.<br /><br />https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=8518750Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-63553013409173692552018-05-08T03:34:41.673-07:002018-05-08T03:34:41.673-07:00Squidly: Wrong. LoT's are not violated because...Squidly: Wrong. LoT's are not violated because the net energy balance is established between the Earth (relatively cold body) and the Sun (very hot body), not between Earth's surface and atmosphere. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-34644325778015465832018-05-05T08:41:05.402-07:002018-05-05T08:41:05.402-07:00However gravitational heating continues to the cor...However gravitational heating continues to the core & does not depend on macroscopic convection .Bob Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12517889718518675999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-13426503575455656492018-05-05T08:36:51.304-07:002018-05-05T08:36:51.304-07:00Actually it was demonstrated <1960 that emr blu...Actually it was demonstrated <1960 that emr blue shifts descending a gravitational well .<br /><br />The shift tho slight should match .Bob Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12517889718518675999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-69277957343531818942018-04-14T12:01:18.936-07:002018-04-14T12:01:18.936-07:00I'm not saying you're wrong. But is there ...I'm not saying you're wrong. But is there any maths and physics to demonstrate that?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09394658220768062704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-86218853703924422792018-04-13T20:24:46.014-07:002018-04-13T20:24:46.014-07:00Yes via solar variation and solar amplification me...Yes via solar variation and solar amplification mechanisms. MShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06714540297202434542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-4477591542728768412018-04-13T15:05:26.603-07:002018-04-13T15:05:26.603-07:00Just a quick question.
How would this theory exp...Just a quick question. <br /><br />How would this theory explain global temperature variations on decadal, centennial and millennial timescales? That is to say shorter timescales than Milankovich?<br /><br />In short how would this theory explain the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09394658220768062704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-58652400405790088562018-03-31T23:17:03.793-07:002018-03-31T23:17:03.793-07:00Methodology is seriously flawed in the this paper....Methodology is seriously flawed in the this paper. Right from their choice of H1. It is well known that funding flows to alarmist scientists actively publishing in their field. Without controlling for this variable (funding) this exercise is completely moot. One should look at a population of well credentialed scientists and compare opinions from those actively seeking funding for their AGW research vs. those that are retired or for whatever reason not reliant upon funding of AGW research for their livelihood and then compare those two populations. H2 is interesting because the hypothesis itself proves the point that we scientists have been making about the AGW hypothesis, that much of it is politically driven. In real science the political bent of the scientist should have no bearing on the results. The AGW hypothesis is exceptional in this sense. H3 and H4 are really controlling for the investigator's susceptibility to Group Think. Finally, this type of survey has a 500lb gorilla in the room in the low response rate as has been mentioned in other posts. It is highly conceivable that respondents answering this survey would be much more likely to respond if they hold a "consensus view" vs. those that hold the contrarian view due to fear of reprisals. <br /><br />Despite all these fallacies and poor design, the results are still amazingly low on the consensus numbers vs. what has previously been represented to the public, i.e. 97%, etc. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06959525448759270335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-49038552800663924652018-03-31T22:57:37.357-07:002018-03-31T22:57:37.357-07:00The real problem here is the perversion of science...The real problem here is the perversion of science and conflation with politics. The push-back from many scientists has been the force-feeding of a pre-conceived hypothesis and silencing of critics. Although I myself am a trained scientist, the over-reliance on models for prediction and then the media spouting the what-if scenarios as if they are robust predictions, has been the real source of feedback. When is the last time you saw a scientific discussion on climate natural variability, the problem with temperature data manipulation, uncertainty, signal Fourier theory when considering periodicity in data, etc.? I know a thing or two about metrology (not meteorology) and temperature measurement and if you don't use primary standards in your calibrations, no amount of ex post facto data manipulation will get you better uncertainty. I don't buy the arguments for such data homogenization and averaging. If you are compensating for Urban Heat island effect the adjustments are in the wrong direction! Why are the adjustments in perfect lock-step with CO2 concentrations? Let's make this transparent and discuss it. If climate alarmists have a legitimate argument to back them up, then why do they submit themselves to the fair scientific accusations of data manipulation? We have to determine the effect of urban heat island effect vs. greenhouse effect, whether a warmer arctic results in more radiated heat to space, whether the jet stream is affected by solar activity or thermal action, whether ocean acidification is a result of waste water treatment (local effects) or a more global phenomenon, whether greater carbon fixation from increased CO2 is a net benefit or a problem (note most plants are CO2 starved), and so on. Once scientists start looking at these areas with real science and not emotion or ad hominem or even legal battles, then us skeptics will start to trust the alarmist position more. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06959525448759270335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-26019043872843798892018-03-23T15:22:45.965-07:002018-03-23T15:22:45.965-07:00Hello? Anyone home? Are you going to back up your ...Hello? Anyone home? Are you going to back up your graphic with links to the datasets used, or not??<br /><br />w.Willis Eschenbachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14276840691598976175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-16193589202632198242018-03-22T05:36:26.972-07:002018-03-22T05:36:26.972-07:00eadler2 - What do you mean by the "region at ...eadler2 - What do you mean by the "region at and below the earth's surface"? What do you mean by "maintaining the heat"? Is this an alternative the usual "trapped" heat? Heat cannot be trapped or maintained. Heat by definition is the transfer of thermal energy from a hot to a cooler region. Your comment makes no sense.AlanThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12780125601625903258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-37848081423395115092018-03-22T05:23:37.099-07:002018-03-22T05:23:37.099-07:00eadler2 - Your comment above is complete nonsense....eadler2 - Your comment above is complete nonsense. If the earth does retain heat it does not follow that there is any increase in the temperatures. All that can happen is the temperatures at some point could stay at higher temperatures for longer but there is no increase in any temperature just because heat loss is slowed down. It is easier to see with home insulation but this is not quite the same because we use a thermostat to control room temperatures, with or without insulation. What insulation does is reduce the energy needed to heat the house. It does not and cannot increase the temperature of the heat source. It changes the temperature profile. In the case of the earth, since internal heat is ignored, the heat source is the sun.AlanThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12780125601625903258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-69935386955132964972018-03-18T08:26:45.870-07:002018-03-18T08:26:45.870-07:00The calculation here is not correct. The concept o...The calculation here is not correct. The concept of back radiation does not exist. Radiation from an object cannot return and cause additional heating or re-heating. I wish somebody could work out how to do with heat lost from my home!AlanThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12780125601625903258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-50463674252337502652018-03-13T20:00:10.859-07:002018-03-13T20:00:10.859-07:00Can you please provide links to the temperature, s...Can you please provide links to the temperature, sunspot, PDO, and AMO datasets that you are using? The datasets I've tried this with aren't working ...<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />w.Willis Eschenbachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14276840691598976175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-53340653297894808082018-03-01T15:18:59.513-08:002018-03-01T15:18:59.513-08:00"Skeptical Science has refuted this nonsense ..."Skeptical Science has refuted this nonsense garbage of a post."<br /><br />No. This post by Postma has refuted the nonsense garbage at Skeptical Science. Line ... for ... line. THIS was the point of the post, which the person making this comment did NOT even read, apparently.<br /><br />Robert Kernodlehttp://rgkernodle.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-72204835087463985262018-02-21T02:31:17.143-08:002018-02-21T02:31:17.143-08:00Just stumbled across this article, although two ye...Just stumbled across this article, although two years old its a very interesting paper. Thanks for sharing!Kevin Keogh Crane Hirehttp://www.kkeoghcraneservices.ienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-63436623997519306052018-02-01T03:00:36.438-08:002018-02-01T03:00:36.438-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Luke Swifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03360339770391670178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-14620516954412121792018-02-01T02:26:43.978-08:002018-02-01T02:26:43.978-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Luke Swifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03360339770391670178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-57576225999280244452018-02-01T00:54:51.428-08:002018-02-01T00:54:51.428-08:00Time for another post please.
Have you been away?
...Time for another post please.<br />Have you been away?<br />Hope all is well.<br />Looking forward to your next offering.<br />Yz<br />DaveThe 2 Ellerbyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16546023763371909138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-36388717129191961332018-01-30T04:59:39.857-08:002018-01-30T04:59:39.857-08:00Stephen, clearly you're right. This thesis doe...Stephen, clearly you're right. This thesis does not explain the extra energy. One of my high school friend's older brother won a science fair for measuring this extra energy from Jupiter. That was in the mid-60s. At the time, the assumption was that the extra energy was from the original heat of compression still working its way to the surface of that deep atmosphere, after 4.5 billion years. At the time, it made sense to me. But now, I'd want to know how long it takes for heat of compression to dissipate from such a thick atmosphere.Rod Martin, Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18338151864062902878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-83094599525821008162018-01-29T03:29:39.581-08:002018-01-29T03:29:39.581-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Luke Swifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03360339770391670178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-39908812421074201942018-01-28T08:13:48.100-08:002018-01-28T08:13:48.100-08:00"or a net source of additional energy to the ..."or a net source of <b>additional energy</b> to the system."<br /><br />See anything wrong with this? ... someone please explain how it would even be possible for DWLR to create "additional energy to the system" without violating the 1st LoT ...Squidlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916585097070823476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-5789303273375341272018-01-22T17:12:17.542-08:002018-01-22T17:12:17.542-08:00No spectral phenomenon can explain why the bottoms...No spectral phenomenon can explain why the bottoms of atmospheres are hotter than their tops . <br /><br />I think it is probably the case that the "darkness" of the atmosphere in the IR does cause it to be so much lower than the orbital gray body temperature than what would be calculated for the surface alone .Bob Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12517889718518675999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-89448886825383022322017-12-29T09:25:08.868-08:002017-12-29T09:25:08.868-08:00There was an experiment shown on BBC TV by Dr Iain...There was an experiment shown on BBC TV by Dr Iain Stewart using a candle and a tube which was filled initially with air and then with CO2. A thermal camera was used to detect the flame. It vanished when the tube was filled with CO2. Here is a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot5n9m4whaw. Unfortunately, Jonathan Hare of Sussex University set up this experiment and he revealed how it was done. Thermal cameras can be set up to detect CO2 leaks in industrial equipment and this was the camera used, hence it detected the CO2 immediately and the candle vanished. Isn't science wonderful?AlanThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12780125601625903258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142988674703954802.post-47315323237862748582017-12-27T21:31:53.342-08:002017-12-27T21:31:53.342-08:00"high emissivity will cool the atmosphere but..."high emissivity will cool the atmosphere but at the expense of emitting radiation back to the surface."<br />-<br />It doesn't make any difference if the emitted radiation is back to the surface or not. You still cannot further warm the surface from a cooler object (the atmosphere). Nor can the original source of that IR (the surface) heat itself simply by bouncing radiation to gasses like CO2 back to itself. You cannot get around the 1st and 2nd LoT's ...Squidlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916585097070823476noreply@blogger.com