Global monthly average total precipitable water vapor |
Climate scientist Roger Pielke Sr. comments on the new paper:
However, the figure [above], if it turns about to be robust, raises fundamental issues with respect to the ability of global climate models to skillfully model the role of humans in altering the climate. Indeed, the Vonder Haar et al 2012 provides further support to the conclusion by De-Zheng Sun in the paper
Sun, D.-Z., Y. Yu, and T. Zhang, 2009: Tropical Water Vapor and Cloud Feedbacks in Climate Models: A Further Assessment Using Coupled Simulations.J. Climate, 22, 1287-1304
that I posted on in
Tropical Water Vapor and Cloud Feedbacks in Climate Models: A Further Assessment Using Coupled Simulations by De-Zheng Sun, Yongqiang Yu, and Tao ZhangAs part of their conclusions, they wrote
“The extended calculation using coupled runs confirms the earlier inference from the AMIP runs that underestimating the negative feedback from cloud albedo and overestimating the positive feedback from the greenhouse effect of water vapor over the tropical Pacific during ENSO is a prevalent problem of climate models.
While De-Zheng was reluctant to relate his findings to multi-decadal global climate model simulations of the role of humans in the climate system, the new Vonder Haar et al 2012 paper provides further support that the water vapor feedback is overstated by the IPCC models.
Related: posts on water vapor as a negative feedback
http://judithcurry.com/2012/07/08/the-government-climate-complex/
ReplyDeletemost data sets show relative humidity is declining in direct opposition to global warming theory, which the IPCC chooses to ignore
paper finds water vapor was 10% higher than modern levels despite much lower levels of CO2
ReplyDeletehttp://www.pnas.org/content/102/3/690.long
http://www.friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/FOS%20Essay/GlobalRelativeHumidity300_700mb.jpg
ReplyDeleteanother paper with observations shows water vapor decreasing in the stratosphere:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/12/6475/2012/acp-12-6475-2012.pdf
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/05/31/a-longer-look-at-climate-sensitivity/#comment-998750
ReplyDeletepaper is here
ReplyDeletehttp://www.leif.org/EOS/2012GL052094-pip.pdf