CAGW proponents have alleged that West Antarctic glaciers such as such as the Thwaites Glacier and the neighboring Pine Island Glacier are rapidly melting due to man-made greenhouse gases and/or ocean heating, despite observations showing the air temperature in the Antarctic hasn’t risen since 1979, Antarctic sea surface temperatures have fallen since 2006, and ARGO ocean heat content of the Southern Ocean shows no increase at any level of the top 2000 meters since the system was put in place in 2004. The authors find the neighboring Pine Island Glacier also overlies the same volcanic rift system and thus may also be melting from geothermal heat below.
The West Antarctic Volcanic Rift System is illustrated by JoNova below, and just so happens to correspond to the areas of notable glacier melt and alleged warming. In contrast, East Antarctica, which holds > 80% of Antarctic ice mass and does not have any known underlying volcanoes, is significantly increasing in ice mass.
The paper joins several others finding geothermal heat largely if not entirely responsible for glacier melt in multiple regions in both Antarctica and Greenland, i.e. not anthropogenic.
The air temperature in the Antarctic hasn’t risen since 1979:
And Antarctic sea surface temperature has fallen since 2006, which would explain the extra sea ice:
And if we look at ARGO OHC measurements in the Antarctic we see there is no warming at any level in the ocean:
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- The Byrd Subglacial Basin beneath Thwaites Glacier is part of Mesozoic widespread rifting.
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- Thin crust (18–24 km) exists in eastern Marie Byrd Land and beneath Thwaites Glacier.
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- Gravity evidence supports hypothesis of warm mantle beneath Marie Byrd Land.
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- Supports the use of thin crust and higher heat flux values in Western Antarctica.
Abstract
Fig 1 from the paper illustrating West Antarctic region studied in red box |
Fig 2. Geothermal heat flux within box in Fig 1. |
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Andrew, there was a recent paper on a gravity anomaly also in West Antarctica. That also a sign of volcanoes. Have you seen it?...Latitude
ReplyDeleteYes, it's been all over the alarmist media that climate change is now "affecting gravity" too. For example,
Deletehttp://www.techtimes.com/articles/16973/20141005/dwindling-antarctic-ice-messing-with-earths-gravity-blame-climate-change.htm
Yes that paper is discussing the exact same W Antarctic glaciers as this paper, the Pine Island and Thwaites glaciers.
Thus, the silly claim that this gravity change is man-made is debunked, it is due to geothermal heat from volcanoes.
This new paper, BTW, is also based upon an analysis of gravity changes due to geothermal heat melting glaciers from below.
DeleteWhile ever you can produce no explanation for the net inflow of thermal energy required to raise the temperature of the Venus surface by 5 degrees during its sunlit hours (as per Hans Jelbring's paper) then you have no understanding of planetary atmospheric and surface temperatures and the complete picture of all energy flows. I have explained what physics tells us in "Why It's Not Carbon Dioxide After All." You have not.
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ReplyDeleteAu contraire, Hans Jelbring's paper was posted here a long time ago:
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2010/09/shattering-greenhouse-effect.html
I actually pointed this out to Johnathan Shanklin head of meteorology and ozone moitoring unit for the UK Antarctic Survey Team about 6years ago. His team had observed the string of volcanic vents 6 months earlier during flyovers. He knew nothing of it. There was no info as to the relative importance.
ReplyDeleteNot important to the CAGW narrative
DeleteSet up parallel mirrors and shine a torch through a small hole in one. Does the light get brighter and brighter as it bounces back and forth? No. And neither does the radiative flux that enters Earth's atmosphere get stronger and stronger as it bounces back and forth between the surface and the atmosphere, supposedly delivering more flux out of the base of the troposphere and into the surface than the flux which entered the atmosphere in the first place. But that's what the fancy K-T cum IPCC back radiation diagrams show and the IPCC authors brainwash gullible people into believing, just like they want you to believe water vapour warms dry regions with 1% WV by about 10 or 12 degrees and moist regions with 4% WV by about 40 or 50 degrees. Actually, real world data shows it cools. But if you do realise that these diagrams are false, how then do you explain the surface temperature?
ReplyDeleteCan you expand on the use of the term 'primarily' as in 'primarily melting from below'? I didn't see this word used, but it adds an interpretation that may not be justified from the context. In fact the paper uses the word 'potential': 'elevated geothermal heat flux in this sector of the West Antarctic Rift System and consequently the potential for enhanced meltwater production beneath parts of Thwaites Glacier'.
ReplyDeleteFig 2 shows highly localized crustal thinning characteristic of a localized geothermal source over land, not the ocean and not diffuse as would be expected if AGW warming of either the atmosphere or the oceans was responsible for the melt.
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