Tuesday, April 20, 2010

Mann Threatens Lawsuit Against Video Exposing His Hockey Stick

I'm no lawyer, but believe that for a libel or slander lawsuit to be successful, the plaintiff must prove that the defendants knew what they said was false, and that truth is an absolute defense. Thus, if Michael Mann is foolish enough to proceed with his threatened lawsuit against Minnesotans 4 Global Warming for their Hide the Decline parody video, he will:
1. Need to prove that Phil Jones email to Mann about Mike [Mann's] Nature Trick to "hide the decline" doesn't really refer to Mann "hiding the decline" in the tree ring data, which show decreasing temperatures after 1960.
2. Need to prove that Mann's email to Phil Jones on June 4, 2003, stating "it would be nice to try to "contain" the putative "MWP" [Medieval Warming Period], even if we don't yet have a hemispheric mean reconstruction available that far back” does not show scientific malfeasance.
3. Need to prove that Mann's hockey stick isn't one of the most thoroughly debunked scientific papers of the 20th century
4. Need to prove that Mann himself has not repeatedly deliberately distorted highly critical reviews of his work
5. Need to prove that it is ok for Mann to continue to flip temperature proxies upside down even in his latest papers, even though this egregious error has already been pointed out to him in the past and which he still refuses to acknowledge.
6. UPDATE: Need to prove that Mann's email stating "As we all know, this isn't about truth at all, its about plausibly deniable accusations" shows Mann has any interest in the "truth at all".
and so on...ad nauseum.
Minnesotans 4 Global Warming hope Mann will proceed with his lawsuit so that the legal discovery process will force exposure of data and methods Mann has still not released and that the official whitewash inquiries refuse to investigate. In the mean time, they have removed Mann's name and produced the new Hide the Decline II video:
Related: Michael Mann quotes


  1. Actually, M4GW took he video down to comply with Dr. Mann's request and the No Cap And Trade Coalition comissioned and posted the new Hide the Decline II video.

  2. The original 'hockey stick' was on the cover of Science magazine , November 4 1960.
    The cover article is 'Doomsday: Friday, 13 November AD 2026' by von Foerster (of Club of Rome infamy).
    It ludicrously asserts an infinite population by forgetting the simple 15-20 year time lag between birth and child-bearing. The resulting 'model' dutifully produced the world's first hockey stick, undoubtedly the inspiration for later AGW alarmists.

  3. I would guess that Mann has no intention of proceeding with any law suit. It's all about public perception.

  4. A well known Canadian AGW “denier,” retired University of Winnipeg geography professor Dr. Timothy Ball, is being sued by Dr. Michael Mann over statements Ball made in his blog. http://drtimball.com

    Dr. Tim Ball is being sued by Dr. Michael Mann for allegedly libeling him. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/08/help-asked-for-dr-tim-ball-in-legal-battle-with-dr-mann/

    Dr. Ball is also being sued by Dr. Andrew Weaver, one of the lead authors of the IPCC report, for allegedly libeling him, too. http://www.desmogblog.com/weaver-sues-tim-ball-libel

    Earlier, Dr. Ball had withdrawn a lawsuit he’d filed against Dr. Dan Johnson, who Ball alleged had libeling him by calling his credentials into question in a letter to the editor of the Calgary Herald. http://globalwarmingwatch.blogspot.com/2007/06/no-ball-climate-denialist-retracts.html

  5. Anonymous,

    Apparently you believe filing of a lawsuit indicates it has merit. Here are multiple reasons why it does not have merit: