Sunday, August 24, 2014

Meet the scientists who sat Governor Rick Scott down & explained the CAGW scam

According to the article below from, the "scientists who sat Rick Scott down and explained climate change to him" used the tired & repeatedly debunked climate propaganda techniques of Al Gore to "make the case for climate action." Their climate propaganda included

1. Claiming ice core data shows CO2 controls temperature. 

In fact, CO2 levels in ice cores lag temperatures by 800+ years. The cause cannot follow the effect [mathematical & observational proof]. Observations show CO2 lags temperature on short, intermediate, and long-term timescales, therefore, temperature changes drive CO2 levels, not the other way around.  

2. Claiming "Other forces, like El Nino/La Nina, volcanoes and solar irradiance cannot alone explain all of the variability we’ve observed, and global temperature change cannot be understood without taking greenhouse gas emissions into account" 

3. Claiming Florida is facing an impending disaster from sea level rise. 

Global sea levels have been naturally rising for ~20,000 years and have decelerated over the past 8,000 years, decelerated over the 20th century, decelerated 31% since 2002 and decelerated 44% since 2004 to less than 7 inches per century. There is no evidence of an acceleration of sea level rise, and therefore no evidence of any effect of mankind on sea levels. Sea level rise is primarily a local phenomenon related to land subsidence, not CO2 levels. Therefore, areas like Miami Florida which is built on soft limestone have higher rates of relative sea level rise, but this has absolutely nothing to do with man-made CO2. 

Were these "scientists" trained in climate propaganda techniques by Bill Nye and Al Gore's Climate Unreality Project?

Meet the scientists who sat Rick Scott down and explained climate change to him

The Florida governor gave experts a half-hour to make the case for climate action. Here's what they told him

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (Credit: AP Photo, File)
Rick Scott, who governs a state described as “ground zero” for the effects of climate change, refuses to say whether he believes that climate change is happening. When put on the spot, he dodges the question by saying he’s “not a scientist.” Which is why members of his constituency who are scientists felt obligated to set him straight. Last month, 10 Florida scientists sent the governor a letter offering to explain what’s happening in the climate system and why it poses a threat to the state.
Scott, because there was no way he could get away with not doing so, gave them a half-hour of his time. The briefing went down Tuesday; Thursday morning, three of those scientists — Jeff Chanton, a professor of oceanography at Florida State University; Ben Kirtman, a professor of meteorology and physical oceanography at the University of Miami; and David Hastings, a professor of marine science and chemistry at Eckerd University — recapped what went down.
In order to make sure everyone was on the same page, the presentation went way back. Like, Climate Science 101 back. Which is arguably what Scott needed. They started with ice cores, explaining how scientists drill into glaciers in order to uncover a chronological record of temperature and atmospheric conditions stretching back hundreds of thousands of years. Chanton demonstrated how concentrations of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane are clearly correlated with temperature “in a very significant way,” and how current CO2 levels, which are off the charts, are clearly influencing temperature, and will continue to do so in the future:
Throughout their presentation, the scientists emphasized, again and again, how robust this science is, and how it’s been supported by multiple lines of evidence. Kirtman, for example, explained why scientists are so overwhelmingly certain that human activity is contributing to climate change. Other forces, like El Nino/La Nina, volcanoes and solar irradiance cannot alone explain all of the variability we’ve observed, and global temperature change cannot be understood without taking greenhouse gas emissions into account:

And so on and so on, with a special emphasis on what rising sea levels will mean for South Florida (disaster).
Is it possible that Scott didn’t already know most of this? It seems unlikely. But now he can no longer deny that he’s seen the evidence for himself. It doesn’t matter whether he’s a scientist, the presenters emphasized, because being an expert isn’t part of his job description — just as understanding the science behind climate change shouldn’t have anything to do with political affiliation. And he’s lucky to lead a state full of smart, engaged, passionate scientists who are willing to hold his hand and walk him through the complicated stuff.
What Scott is required to do, however, is to listen to the facts, and to then use that information to lead his state forward, both in mitigating climate change and in adapting to the effects that are already being experienced. All three were unflaggingly optimistic that both are possible. But Scott needs to meet them halfway. The scientists admitted that they’re frustrated, and said that the short amount of time they were allotted — along with the pressure of knowing that the press was watching — kept Scott from really engaging with them on the science. Still, they feel sure he must have gotten something out of it (just to be sure, they gave him a book on sea level rise to take home and read on his own). Added Hastings, “We’d be willing to try again.”
Lindsay Abrams
Lindsay Abrams is a staff writer at Salon, reporting on all things sustainable. Follow her on Twitter @readingirl, email


  1. Global warming alarmists say the seas will rise 260 feet with a few degree rise in the atmospheric temperature, but any ice within the Arctic Circle and Antarctic Circle will not melt as they are in darkness six months of the year. A few degree temperature change will not make a difference in deep freeze.

    Earth is an 8,000 mile globe with a surface area of 210 million square miles. 71% of it is covered by water with an average depth of 16,000 feet or 3.03 miles, thus includes 451 million cubic miles of sea water. Every foot of depth is equal to 28,250 cubic miles of seawater.

    According to The Journal of Geophysical Research, JGR, all the glaciers total 41,000 cubic miles of ice which melt to 36,900 cubic miles of water. This would increase the water level on Earth 1.31 feet or 15.6 inches and not the 260 feet claimed by the USGS bureau.

    The published JGR analysis is never reported in mainstream media. People who want to scare you say the seas will rise 260 ft., but if all the ice were to melt it would only account for 214 feet. The elected ruling class wants new taxes, your money and more power by scaring you. It is just that simple.

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    1. I think that I will need to ask you to 'scuse me for preferring the analysis of the USGS to the "analysis" of somebody who thinks that "Two Minute Conservative," is all ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    2. I don't endorse Mr. Vance's "Two Minute Conservative" website or his calculations above, which I discredited on another post. However, his comment met the comment policy, so it was published

  2. CO2 is a “trace gas” in air, insignificant by definition. It absorbs 1/7th as much IR, heat energy, from sunlight as water vapor which has 188 times as many molecules capturing 1200 times as much heat making 99.9% of all "global warming." CO2 does only 0.1% of it. For this we should destroy our economy?

    The Medieval Warming from 800 AD to 1300 AD that Micheal Mann erased to make his "hockey stick" was several degrees warmer than anything "global warmers" fear. It was the longest recorded time, 500 years, of peace with great abundance for all.

    The Vostock Ice Core data analysis show CO2 increases follow temperature increases by 800 years 19 times in 450,000 years. That makes temperature change cause and CO2 change effect; not the other way around. This alone refutes the anthropogenic global warming concept.

    Carbon combustion generates 80% of our energy. Control and taxing of carbon would give the elected ruling class more power and money than anything since the Magna Carta of 1215 AD.

    Most scientists and science educators work for tax supported institutions eager to help government raise more money for them. And, they love being seen as "saving the planet."

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